Comments on: The fallout from 42 days http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/2008/06/12/the-fallout-from-42-days/ Avoiding arrows by the City walls Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:09:33 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Matt In The Hat http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/2008/06/12/the-fallout-from-42-days/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Matt In The Hat Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:38:03 +0000 http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/?p=9#comment-62 Thank goodness for the Other House. They'll kick this piece back and Brown will have to make further concessions to get it passed again and hopefully more MPs will have seen the massive support Davis will get in his constituency over this and change their vote. He's going to win his byelection, he's in opposition to an unpopular government, is standing for re-election because of his principals rather than a raft of other, less savoury, reasons and I can't imagine the LibDems fighting tooth and nail against the guy for acting in a very honourable way. Thank goodness for the Other House. They’ll kick this piece back and Brown will have to make further concessions to get it passed again and hopefully more MPs will have seen the massive support Davis will get in his constituency over this and change their vote.

He’s going to win his byelection, he’s in opposition to an unpopular government, is standing for re-election because of his principals rather than a raft of other, less savoury, reasons and I can’t imagine the LibDems fighting tooth and nail against the guy for acting in a very honourable way.

]]> By: jimmy http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/2008/06/12/the-fallout-from-42-days/comment-page-1/#comment-59 jimmy Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:40:44 +0000 http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/?p=9#comment-59 On the plan to the US from New Zealand, the captain made an announcement to the effect that due to US anti-terror laws "congregating in groups" on the aircraft was forbidden. In other words, standing round with two or more people having a chat was illegal. I was telling my mother this on the phone- her response was that she'd lived in London while it was getting the shit bombed out of it for a decade, and they didn't resort to anything so patently stupid then- why should we now? On the plan to the US from New Zealand, the captain made an announcement to the effect that due to US anti-terror laws “congregating in groups” on the aircraft was forbidden. In other words, standing round with two or more people having a chat was illegal.

I was telling my mother this on the phone- her response was that she’d lived in London while it was getting the shit bombed out of it for a decade, and they didn’t resort to anything so patently stupid then- why should we now?

]]> By: Gabriele http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/2008/06/12/the-fallout-from-42-days/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Gabriele Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:10:45 +0000 http://www.randomlyevil.org.uk/?p=9#comment-58 thanks for this post. I certainly agree with you. The introduction of 42-day detention without charge is the last of a long series of mistakes by the New Labour administration, which has succeeded in alienating not only the increasingly dystopic British Muslim youth, but also the so-called first Muslim generation. My fieldwork suggests that the level of frustration among Muslims in the UK with this government has reached a concerning level. The issue is not only unpopular decisions, such as terrorist legislations and operations which have achieved very little but have had a relevant impact on the lives of many Muslims of this country. I find interesting, and intriguing, to notice that the less we face a real threat from ‘Islamic terrorism’, the more we are arguing for special legislations and conduct mistaken police operations. One of the reasons is that the security agencies, the police and the government are receiving less intelligence. They would not admit this openly, but the Muslim communities in this country have lost trust in this administration. I have written a <a href="http://marranci.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/losing-the-hearts-upsetting-the-minds-brown%e2%80%99s-42-day-detention/" rel="nofollow">post </a> about this in my blog Gabriele thanks for this post. I certainly agree with you. The introduction of 42-day detention without charge is the last of a long series of mistakes by the New Labour administration, which has succeeded in alienating not only the increasingly dystopic British Muslim youth, but also the so-called first Muslim generation.

My fieldwork suggests that the level of frustration among Muslims in the UK with this government has reached a concerning level. The issue is not only unpopular decisions, such as terrorist legislations and operations which have achieved very little but have had a relevant impact on the lives of many Muslims of this country.
I find interesting, and intriguing, to notice that the less we face a real threat from ‘Islamic terrorism’, the more we are arguing for special legislations and conduct mistaken police operations. One of the reasons is that the security agencies, the police and the government are receiving less intelligence. They would not admit this openly, but the Muslim communities in this country have lost trust in this administration.

I have written a post about this in my blog

Gabriele

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